Aba Gayle was Ruth's guest. She told the story of Maurice Bickham, an African American, born in 1917, served 38 years and is now an ordained minister. He was from the era of  Jim Crow laws, convicted of shooting two white law men, had his execution date set seven times, but was eventually released in 1996. Aba Gayle reminisced about watching the day Barack Obama took office. His mother had been a slave.You can search the web for more about Aba Gayle and her work with prisoners.