Voices from the Edge

About the program …

Community dialogue is important. At 8am every Thursday Voices from the Edge lends a KBOO microphone to informed guests you might not hear anywhere else. With an hour to invest, the call-in format engages listeners in meaningful conversations about crucial issues like racial disparity, government accountability, environmental justice and politics on local, state and national levels. Join lively discussions about concerns that are important to you and our community. Together we’ll make Oregon and our nation a better place for a larger number of those living here.

About the host

Jo Ann Hardesty is Principal Partner at Consult Hardesty. She serves as a subject matter expert on a myriad of issues and is available as a speaker, facilitator and campaign planner. A long-time voice for Portland's under-represented communities and a leader in the struggle against racial and economic injustice, Jo Ann was three times elected to the Oregon legislature and for many years Executive Director of Oregon Action. She’s been called on by the City of Portland to help re-write the City Charter and organizes those on the downside of power to pursue their interests from the local to the federal level. She is particularly committed to leadership development and in holding those in power accountable.

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Episode Archive

Voices from the Edge on 10/29/09

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Thu, 10/29/2009 - 8:00am - 9:00am
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Is it time to go fire your bank?

At a time when corporations are handing pink slips to innocent individuals, some Portlanders think its time to hand pink slips to the institutions that are culpable. Go Fire Your Bank was created by concerned citizens who believe in local, socially-responsible economies.

Voices from the Edge on 10/22/09

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Thu, 10/22/2009 - 8:00am - 9:00am
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Why is 350 an important number? A discussion on climate change.

 

 

This Saturday, Portlanders will be gathering in Pioneer Courthouse Square to convince other Oregonians that 350 is a very important number. That's the maximum safe level of parts per million of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The 350 movement, initiated by author-activist Bill McKibbon, is having actions in over 140 nations this Saturday to pressure governments to take serious action to curb climate change. In the United States, the call to action comes as the U.S.

Voices from the Edge on 10/08/09

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Thu, 10/08/2009 - 8:00am - 9:00am
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Why aren't Portland police being held accountable?

Why aren't Portland police being held accountable?

The list of city residents who've become victims at the hands of the Portland police continues to grow, leading Oregonian columnist Anna Griffin to observe the news stories about these incidents "makes the Rose City's finest look like thugs with badges." In the meantime, Chief Rosie Sizer's finding on the death of James Chasse - and her failure to punish the offending officers - suggests police accountability remains little more than a joke in our city. Why can't Portland hold its police force accountable? Should the mayor take back the police commissioner duties from Commissioner Saltzman? Where's the city auditor's Independent Police Review division in all this?

Voices from the Edge on 10/01/09

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Thu, 10/01/2009 - 8:00am - 9:00am
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Hosts Jo Ann Bowman and Dave Mazza interview Robin Hahnel

Hosts Jo Ann Bowman and Dave Mazza interview Robin Hahnel.

Voices from the Edge on 09/10/09

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Thu, 09/10/2009 - 8:00am - 9:00am
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Exonerated: Curtis Edward McCarty and the death penalty

Curtis Edward McCarty was convicted and sentenced to death twice for a 1982 murder in Oklahoma City. After repeated court battles and 21 years in prison - 19 on death row - McCarty was exonerated and released following a 2005 appeals court ruling based on new DNA evidence and findings of a "continued pattern of government misconduct." McCarty was the 124th person in the United States to be exonerated and released since 1973 after spending time on death row.

This week, Jo Ann and Dave talk with McCarty about his experience and his struggle to win his freedom.

Voices from the Edge on 09/03/09

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Thu, 09/03/2009 - 8:00am - 9:00am
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Making the case to recall Mayor Sam Adams: An interview with Jasun Wurster

Volunteers with the campaign to recall Mayor Sam Adams have a little over a month left to collect the 32,183 valid signatures from Portland voters needed to force the Portland mayor to resign or face a special recall election. Campaign organizers have told the press it will be close but support is growing. The campaign - sparked by revelations by Adams that he had lied about his relationship with one of his interns - has brought together strange political bedfellows - from former Adams supporters to extreme conservatives - as well as made Portlanders reflect on how we should judge our elected officials.

This week on Voices from the Edge, Jo Ann and Dave talk with campaign organizer Jasun Wurster about the campaign's chances of success and who has joined the ranks of Portlanders who think the mayor must go. Do you think the mayor's actions warrant his removal? Does focusing on recalling the mayor prevent Portlanders from addressing bigger problems facing our city? Join the conversation this Thursday at 8 a.m.

Voices from the Edge on 08/27/09

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Thu, 08/27/2009 - 8:00am - 9:00am
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A call to fill Oregon's black leadership void: An Interview with Chrles McGee and Johnell Bell

Black leadership is on the rise - from the White House to corporate giants like Xerox Corp. In progressive Oregon, however, blacks currently hold no elected positions in the city, county or regional governments within the metropolitan area where most of their community resides. These political disparities are more than matched by economic, social, health and education disparities that have left black Oregonians impoverished.

Voices from the Edge on 08/20/09

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Thu, 08/20/2009 - 8:00am - 9:00am
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Six of Portland's schools have some of the worst air quality in the nation. Parents want DEQ to take

Portland may be a green city, but some of its school children are breathing air more like the polluted skies of Cleveland. A recent USA Today study found six of our city's schools in northwest and north/northeast Portland among the worst in the nation for exposing children to airborn toxins. Benzine, a carcinogen found in gasoline, exceeds DEQ safety standards by 26 percent. Frustrated with lack of action by state regulators, parents of children in some of the mot impacted schools are organizing the community.

Voices from the Edge on 08/06/09

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Thu, 08/06/2009 - 8:00am - 9:00am
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Can talking about race make a difference? Jo Ann and Dave talk with the founders of the Restorative

Last month, President Obama sat down over beers with a Cambridge cop and a Harvard professor to talk about an ugly incident that brought home how deep racial tensions still run in our nation. The president saw the arrest of Henry Louis Gates, Jr. by Sgt. James Crowly as a "teachable moment" that could help Americans in their struggle to understand race and its impacts. But can talking about race make a difference?

Voices from the Edge on 07/30/09

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Thu, 07/30/2009 - 8:00am - 9:00am
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An interview with the Urban League's Midge Purcell about their report on the state of Black Oregon.

Seven months after the inauguration of the first Black president, a statewide report on the condition of African Americans in Oregon reveals that black Oregonians remain at or near the bottom of every meaningful social and economic measure. African Americans in Oregon have significantly higher infant mortality rates, are more likely to live in poverty, have higher levels of unemployment, are half as likely to own their own homes and are far more likely to die of diseases such as diabetes than their white counterparts.

 

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Voices from the Edge 03-24-11 Oregon Legislature

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Thu, 03/24/2011

This week, Jo Ann and Dave give us updates on what's happening in the Oregon Legislature. 

Jo Ann Bowman is a former state legislator, former executive director of Oregon Action, and a long-time leader in the struggle for racial and economic justice. Dave Mazzais a freelance journalist and former editor of The Portland Alliance who has covered and been involved in Portland's civil rights, peace, labor and environmental movements for 20 years.

 
Join Jo Ann and Dave every Thursday as they bring you guests and discussion of issues important to you. Support programming like Voices from the Edge by becoming a member of KBOO today.

Program Engineer: Steve Nassar

Audio Editor: Alicia Olson

Voices from the Edge 03-17-11 A new look at Oregon's Measure 11 and its impacts

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Thu, 03/17/2011

Kevin Mannix promised voters in 1994 that his Ballot Measure 11 establishing minimum mandatory sentences would create certainty in Oregon's criminal justice system. While the measure tripled the state's prison population over 20 years, a new report by the state Criminal Justice Commission finds that Measure 11 not only failed to deliver certainty, it has cost the state billions of dollars while it shifting sentencing power from the hands of judges to those of district attorneys - a shift many see as dangerous.

This week, Jo Ann and Dave spoke with retired Oregon judge Darryl Larson, chairman of the Criminal Justice Commission about the report's findings as well as the significance of its release as Governor Kitzhaber and the legislature begins looking at mandatory sentencing rules in light of budget constraints.

Jo Ann Bowman is a former state legislator, former executive director of Oregon Action, and a long-time leader in the struggle for racial and economic justice. Dave Mazzais a freelance journalist and former editor of The Portland Alliance who has covered and been involved in Portland's civil rights, peace, labor and environmental movements for 20 years.

 
Join Jo Ann and Dave every Thursday as they bring you guests and discussion of issues important to you. Support programming like Voices from the Edge by becoming a member of KBOO today.

Program Engineer: Steve Nassar

Audio Editor: Alicia Olson

Voices from the Edge 03-10-11 Wray Harris

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Thu, 03/10/2011

This week on Voices from the Edge, Jo Ann and Dave talked with Wray Harris, president of Iraq Veterans Against the War (Oregon) about who is paying the real cost of America's wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.  

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Jo Ann Bowman is a former state legislator, former executive director of Oregon Action, and a long-time leader in the struggle for racial and economic justice. Dave Mazza is a freelance journalist and former editor of The Portland Alliance who has covered and been involved in Portland's civil rights, peace, labor and environmental movements for 20 years.
 
Join Jo Ann and Dave every Thursday as they bring you guests and discussion of issues important to you. Support programming like Voices from the Edge by becoming a member of KBOO today.

Program Engineer: Steve Nassar
Audio Editor: Alicia Olson

Voices from the Edge 03-03-11 True Crime: Fact and Fiction about Oregon's Crime Rate

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Thu, 03/03/2011

True Crime: Fact and Fiction about Oregon's Crime Rate

Turn on the local news and most likely the lead story will be about crime. Its the rare elected official who won't suggest crime is overwhelming our public safety resources. Its little wonder that the majority of Oregonians are convinced that their state is victim to a rising tide of crime - a conviction, it turns out, with no basis in fact. Oregon's violent crime rate is at a 40-year low and the property crime rate is at its lowest since 1966.

This week on Voices from the Edge,  host Dave Mazza looked at the findings of Criminal Justice Policy Research Institute in their new study about Oregonian's perceptions about crime. Who are the 52 percent of Oregonians who believe crime is on the rise? What factors are playing a part in their beliefs? What are the impacts on all Oregonians?

Jo Ann Bowman is a former state legislator, former executive director of Oregon Action, and a long-time leader in the struggle for racial and economic justice. Dave Mazza is a freelance journalist and former editor of The Portland Alliance who has covered and been involved in Portland's civil rights, peace, labor and environmental movements for 20 years.

 
Join Jo Ann and Dave every Thursday as they bring you guests and discussion of issues important to you. Support programming like Voices from the Edge by becoming a member of KBOO today.

Program Engineer: Steve Nassar

Audio Editor: Alicia Olson

Voices from the Edge 02-24-11 Wisconsin Protests

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Thu, 02/24/2011

Dave Mazza hosted this week's Voices from the Edge about the ongoing 2011 Wisconsin Protests.  Open lines with KBOO Listeners.

The conversation doesn't end when the program does. You can join in additional discussion of the week's issue on our blog at kboo.fm/voicesfromtheedge  (click on the "blog" tab). You'll find additional information, important links, comments from other listeners and commentary from Jo Ann and Dave. Have a question for our guests, but can't call in during the program? Post your questions on line so we can make them a part of the Voices discussion.



Hosts:  Jo Ann Bowman, Dave Mazza
Program Engineer: Steve Nassar
Audio Editor: Alicia Olson

Voices from the Edge 02-17-11

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Thu, 02/17/2011

Jo Ann and Dave talked about the Metro Council seat, the federal public media funding, Joint Terrorism Task Force, and other current Portland Topics.   Open Lines with KBOO listeners.

The conversation doesn't end when the program does. You can join in additional discussion of the week's issue on our blog at kboo.fm/voicesfromtheedge  (click on the "blog" tab). You'll find additional information, important links, comments from other listeners and commentary from Jo Ann and Dave. Have a question for our guests, but can't call in during the program? Post your questions on line so we can make them a part of the Voices discussion.



Hosts:  Jo Ann Bowman, Dave Mazza
Program Engineer: Steve Nassar
Audio Editor: Alicia Olson
 

Voices from the Edge 02-10-11 Rethinking Psychiatry

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Thu, 02/10/2011

Rethinking psychiatry: a conversation with Robert Whitaker about a more compassionate mental health system

Our treatment of those in emotional distress manifests itself everyday. Too many Oregonians struggling with mental health issues can be found heavily medicated and warehoused. Or, they are turned out onto the streets to become the victims of crime or institutional violence as in the case of James Chasse. This is an issue that goes beyond public policy reform. It is one that calls for a fundamental reexamination of the "broken brain" model of psychiatry upon which those policies are based.

Jo Ann and Dave talk with Robert Whitaker, author of "Anatomy of an Epidemic: Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs, and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America" - a book being referred to as the "Silent Spring" of psychiatry. Whitaker will offer his insights into how we can create a more humane, caring and healing mental health care system.

Also this week: Jason Kafoury and how civil law can help advance police accountability

Jason Kafoury of the law firm of Kafoury and McDougal will talk about Elgin v. City of Portland, a case stemming from police beating and tasering a PCC student who had fallen asleep in a local restaurant that went to trial last week. He, Jo Ann and Dave discuss the role civil litigation plays in helping create police accountability.

Voices from the Edge wants to thank all our listeners who contributed during last week's membership drive. Your support is what makes this program possible.

Jo Ann Bowman is a former state legislator, former executive director of Oregon Action, and a long-time leader in the struggle for racial and economic justice. Dave Mazza is a freelance journalist and former editor of The Portland Alliance who has covered and been involved in Portland's civil rights, peace, labor and environmental movements for 20 years.
 
Join Jo Ann and Dave every Thursday as they bring you guests and discussion of issues important to you. Support programming like Voices from the Edge by becoming a member of KBOO today.

Program Engineer: Steve Nassar
Audio Editor: Alicia Olson

Voices from the Edge 02-03-2011

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Thu, 02/03/2011

Jo Ann and Dave look at the $5 million labor contract the city just signed with the police union. Is it historic, as Mayor Adams claims, or a hollow victory for police accountability?

Join the conversation at 8 am on KBOO 90.7 FM or online at kboo.fm

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Voices from the Edge 01/27/11 Journalist Reese Erlich

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Thu, 01/27/2011

Veteran journalist Reese Erlich discussed his experience by actually talking (imagine!) to some of the people vilified by our government as terrorists.  His new book is Conversations with Terrorists: Middle East Leaders on Politics, Violence and Empire.

Ten years after George Bush launched his War on Terror, what most Americans know about our "enemies" in this war is what the Pentagon and State Department has told them. Veteran journalist Reese Erlich thought it worth actually talking to people we've vilified as terrorists - people like Hamas leader Khaled Meshal or Hezbollah's Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Fadlallah - to learn their actions and motives. The result is Conversations with Terrorists: Middle East Leaders on Politics, Violence and Empire, a collection of personal stories and first-hand interviews that provides what Daniel Ellsberg calls "a must read for anyone who wants to understand the phony War on Terror."

Jo Ann and Dave spoke with Erlich about his latest analysis of American involvement in this troubled region and what needs to be done to change a policy of U.S. intervention that fuels terrorism rather than ends it. Erlich is also the author of Dateline Havana, The Iran Agenda and Target Iraq, as well as producer of the radio documentary, The Struggle for Iran.

Thursday's special program was part of the kickoff of KBOO's winter membership drive. Please support Voices from the Edge by becoming a KBOO member or renewing if already a member. Your contributions make it possible for us to bring you on air and online programs like today's interview with Reese Erlich. Become a member or renew your membership by calling 503-231-8032 or online by clicking the tip jar at kboo.fm.

Jo Ann Bowman is a former state legislator, former executive director of Oregon Action, and a long-time leader in the struggle for racial and economic justice. Dave Mazza is a freelance journalist and former editor of The Portland Alliance who has covered and been involved in Portland's civil rights, peace, labor and environmental movements for 20 years.
 
Join Jo Ann and Dave every Thursday as they bring you guests and discussion of issues important to you. Support programming like Voices from the Edge by becoming a member of KBOO today.

Program Engineer: Steve Nassar
Audio Editor: Alicia Olson

Voices from the Edge on 01-20-11 Guest Jim Middaugh from Metro

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Thu, 01/20/2011

Metro has launched Opt In, an "online participation tool" to get people involved in their community. Jo Ann and Dave talk with Metro's Jim Middaugh about Opt In and other strategies for more public involvement in local decision-making. 
About the hosts…

Jo Ann Bowman is a former Oregon state legislator, current executive director of Oregon Action and chair of Portland Community Media. Jo Ann is a long-time voice for Portland's under-represented communities and a leader in the struggle against racial and economic injustice.

 

Dave Mazza is a journalist and community activist. The former editor of The Portland Alliance newspaper has reported on and been involved in Portland's civil rights, peace, labor and environmental movements for 20 years. For more about Dave, visit www.davemazza.com

 

Join the conversation…

Join the conversation every Thursday morning from 8-9 a.m. by calling 503-231-8187. Keep the conversation going after the program at our blog at kboo.fm/voicesfromtheedge.

 

Engineering: Steve Nassar

Audio Editing: Alicia Olson

 

Comments

Foreclosure Mills

I just wanted to post a link to an article about the foreclosure mills that make money off of the forsclosure mess.  http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/07/david-stern-djsp-foreclosure-fannie-freddie?page=1

taxing "gross" income?

can you clarify?

don't the measures increase rates on taxable income, not gross income, as the first caller mentioned? 

Still waiting for my apology from Joann

Dear Ms. Bowman,

I did not hear an apology for you making a blatant distortion of my comment.  I do not appreciate being lied about and especially by a campaign which you obviously are supporting which hypocritically poses as the moral arbitrator of the Universe regarding truth telling.

Again, let me clarify:

First off, I did not say, as was falsely stated by you and your guest, that politicians have a right to lie.  I stated that everyone has a right to lie about their love life.  That is a vastly different point and I bitterly resent being lied about on this.

This distortion (lie) by your guest and you is sadly emblematic of the hyperbolic nature of this entire pesudo-moralistic campaign.

I will receive your apology before I ever again associate with you or this program.

Sinverely,

Will Ware

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Lying about lying on the Edge

I don't know how to get an email to the disc jockey.

Will again and please correct your slander of me and misstatement of my comment.

First off, I did not say, as was falsely stated by JoAnn and your caller, that politicians have a right to lie.  I stated that everyone has a right to lie about their love life.  That is a vastly different point and I bitterly resent being lied about on this.

This distortion (lie) by your guest and JoAnn is emblematic of the hyperbolic nature of this entire pesudo-moralistic campaign.

It is a fact that Republicans involved in this are using this as an organizing tool.  It is a fact that this campaign is making common-cause with anti-progressive forces.

It is this campaign that is the divisive force in our community.

This signature campaign is the darling of the right wing.  This campaign is the best thing that has happened to the Multnomah Co. Republican Party since Theodore Roosevelt.

If this is about negative campaigning- WHY IS THIS SUCH A THOROUGLY NEGATIVE CAMPGAIGN.  IT REDUCES POLITICAL DIALOG TO THE LEVEL OF A GRAMMER SCHOOL PLAYGROUND.

 

Cops and Race

Very interesting program today (8/6/09). Here's a germane link to an article by Kevin Alexander Gray in The Progressive "Citizens have the right to talk back to the police":

http://www.progressive.org/mpgray080409.html

In my view, a well trained cop could have and should have defused the situation far short of arrest.

Too frequently, cops escalate situations, especially when dealing with people of color.

As Mr. Alexander sums up in the final sentence of his article: "We should never have to fear when we stand up for our rights." And that goes for people of all hues.

Citizens have the right to talk back ...

I agree, Peter. This article is germane: One outcome of Professor Gate’s arrest should be an understanding that “What lends legitimacy (to our legal system) is our belief that the police are dutiful servants of the people — not their arbitrary oppressors.”

The Declaration of Independence promptly asserts “… Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed.”

'Know Your Rights' training is imperative, as a 'check and balance' against unwarranted interference with the intent of the U.S. Constitution. An informed citizenry is a Public Good. Vigilance against abuse of power is actually a civic responsibility.

I know first-hand a tendency by Portland police to escalate situations that might be otherwise resolved. I have only an inkling of the mental pressures involved in policing, and but a dim suspicion as to the social handicaps that come with wielding weapons, spending so much time in the milieu of antisocial behavior, of having a community grant your uniformed subgroup status as The Enforcers. I would suspect such pressure, status and lethal equipment make it difficult to appreciate a role of Servant of the People.

Do you know what the common ground may be?

Law enforcement.

How can we change our dialogue so that a person of color, being thrown up against chain link fence – sometimes even without a pretext of wrongdoing – has standing when there is no probable cause that a crime is being committed?

By advocating that police actions adhere to Constitutional provisions for freedom from unwarranted search, to be secure in their possessions; would not this citizen also be involved in law enforcement?

One really ironic point I failed to make on the program is that, from the time of Chief Kroeker onward, it has likely been in the consciousness of Portland Police Bureau command that racial profiling actually inhibits criminal detection and prosecution. Simply the perception of police misconduct reduces the quality of public cooperation. One of the results of racial bias is that it is more difficult to secure leads and eventual witness testimony from a disenfranchised, victimized population of law-abiding citizens.

I suggest there will be a real reduction in crime (due to citizen cooperation) when and if policing is seen to be done lawfully. If it were a shared perception that people who oppose the immoral, unethical and illegal practice of racial profiling had merit as Constitutional law enforcers, I would think this a positive dynamic … and not just for people of color, but other negatively affected groups like the mentally ill, for whom self-advocacy is a supreme challenge.

Let us fuse training and dialogue. You mention the ‘well-trained cop.’ Perhaps ‘Know Your Rights’ training (and Oregon Action training includes de-escalation strategies) might dovetail with Portland Police Bureau training. What would be achieved if police training alerted officers that a segment of the population - fatigued by unconstitutional behavior - will be advocating for just and equitable treatment?

If that segment of the population included Police Commissioner Saltzman, Human Rights Commissioner Fritz, City Auditor Griffin-Valade and Mayor Adams, I think the Police union would find impetus to engage in negotiations for a means to weed out officers refusing to enforce the Constitution, state law, or bureau regulations.

To take up your point about police as public servants, the Auditor’s Independent Police Review Board is poised to actually adopt that frame of reference. Currently specializing in facts and figures, there is a component of their reporting primed and ready for public pressure to make this a prime frame of reference for assessing the Police Bureau’s functionality.

Perhaps better left for another blog, I just want you to know that civilian oversight of armed government activity is imperative as the nation pursues a War on Terror. If the City of Portland were to weigh in on fundamental human rights during the nation’s general expansion of police powers, it stands likely to do a Public Good that cannot now be calculated.

Environment: global warming

On this morning's (June 18) program Joann mentioned a man (I think she said "young" and "minority" )who is becomming active in environmental matters, I would like to talk with him about joining the planning and implementation of an event that is scheduled to take place on October 24th.

I am a member ot the Peace and Social Concerns Committee of the Multnomah Monthly Meeting of Friends (Quakers), and the organizer of a sub-group called "Global Coolers". We meet monthly and have taken the responsibility of informing the Meeting about global warming and involving them in efforts to lessen our individual and collective destructive impact on the planet.We have also hosted a couple of community events over the past several years.
Yesterday I learned that Bill McKibben, who is a leading activist in the environmental protection movement, is organizing a world-wide demonstration to take place on October 24: it is described on 350.org.
I want to make sure that Portland participates in this event.
I have not talked yet to other environmental activists about involvement (there may already be plans afoot) but I will do so in the next couple of days. In any case I will welcome all participants in the planning and execution of the event. My telephone number is 503-292-1817.
Thank you for your attention.
Peace, Jim

Measure 53

I was disturbed to hear this morning information that leads me to think I did not check out the ballot measures carefully enough. As an intelligent conservative, I find it both important and difficult to listen to KBOO and other left-of-center sources regularly, and the comments this morning made it clear that I should invest more energy into that effort.

On the other hand, I was a bit amused (and relieved of my nascent guilt) when I heard you adamantly insist that Measure 53 passed by a 76-24 margin because a day-old paper said so. It is possible that the Oregonian was that far off the mark - if so, I would assume that it was an early edition which showed very preliminary results. I went to three sources this morning of which two gave vote tallies. KATU.com indicates that as of 8am today the vote on 53 was YES 475,838 and NO 473,912 which is a margin of less than 2000 votes out of nearly 1 million. Rounded to the nearest percent, the vote is 50-50. KOIN.com had very similar (probably identical) numbers.

So I figure that if you let your personal opinions cloud such simple and easily ascertained facts, if you are so closed-minded that you will not double-check this when it is disputed, I need not concern myself with your judgment on the more complex issue of Measure 53 itself.

- Gordon

 

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