Bill and Jane talk about the relationship between welfare and the working-poor, paying special attention to working-mothers in Jane's research. Jane says she and her colleagues have wanted to know how the relationship between government, families and business has changed to affect the division of labor she and feminists call "social reproduction" - basically getting people into the next generation. She laments that a lot of people in government today seem to think that tax-payers arrive on the scene fully developed and ready to work. Jane hopes to dislodge that assumption and show that children and adults need many things - like healthcare, childcare and the flexibility to take care of personal crises - secured by their community to flourish individually.
Last week Bill and Tom talked about sex-abuse in the Church, resistance to dealing with it by leadership. When Bill asks Tom what he'd do if he was Pope, Tom says he'd get rid of the monarchial form of the Church. Tom describes the way that the monarchies of the past constrained the way the Church developed. People are tired of the hierarchy, which insulates the sex-abuse, but the Church remains officially terrified by democracy and liberation theology.
Recently a report by US Catholic Bishops charges the 1960s with corrupting priests - among other things, because of promoting sexual freedom. Thomas Doyle, a Catholic Priest rejects this, pointing out it was a global problem, and relates his experience within the Church before and during when the media began to expose sex-abuse in the Church. Doyle tried to engage the Church when abuse cases started to penetrate the media in the 1970s, advising them on addressing and preventing abuse, but was ignored. So, he went on to expose this abuse. Doyle draws a picture of Bishops ignoring sociopathology in order protect their image and the image of the Church.