A Different Nature
A Different Nature Mission Statement: A Sustained Explorations of New, Experimental Music and Sonic Art
A Different Nature is a curatorial program of genre-defying avant garde music and spoken word that champions historic and modern sound art and spotlights, new, emergent experimental music and audio art generally not heard anywhere else.
The program's format provides the space for deep listening to pieces not confined to pop song lengths and shows are generally focused on an artist, school of music or discipline, record label or art movement.
A Different Nature is a collaborative effort of the ADN Collective, who each curate a show every week on an informal rotating basis, or a group show, depending on the subject at hand.
A Different Nature was founded in the late Seventies by Richard Francis, who fearlessly championed new music and the unheard Avant Garde. His programs went into exhaustive detail on individual artists, labels and musical disciplines. He also spearheaded many important events on the air, such as the 2001 and 2008 Dada and Surrealism festivals that dominated the airwaves for days on end and involved many in the local avant garde community as well as many KBOO programmers.
Richard passed away in 2009 but it's our hope to carry on with his mission of introducing listeners to unheard new music as a collective of his collaborators and listeners.
Long live Papa Dada!
Airs every Monday from 8 to 10 PM
This time on A Different Nature, we delve into the program's past, and play gems from founder Richard Francis' own record collection. It's KBOO's spring membership drive, so A Different Nature listeners will have the opportunity to pledge their support for the station during the program. We have special thank-you gifts to offer new or renewing members: copies of the CD "Hendrix Uncovered: New Music Inspired by Jimi Hendrix", donated by March Music Moderne & Bob Priest.
- Length: 119:47 minutes (164.51 MB)
- Format: MP3 Stereo 44kHz 192Kbps (CBR)
For forty years, the San Francisco Avant-Garde band The Residents have basked in relative obscurity, much of it self-imposed. Their earliest modus operandi had them creating works under their 'theory of obscurity', first coined by N. Senada, who may or may not be an actual person. One aspect of the theory is that a work is created with the intent of never releasing a work until every participant has forgotten about it - or something like that.
Another aspect of the Residents is that they've kept their real identity a secret for many decades, with a few people speaking on their behalf in a business capacity who may or may not be Residents themselves.. Hmmm..
We did, however, manage to get Homer Flynn, The Resident's creative director and visual Major Domo on the phone, while he was, uh, helping the band on the Eastern leg of their Wonder of Weird 40th Anniversary tour.
Homer was more than generous with his time and lots of questions get answered, including a long-time rumour around KBOO's history.
But I'll let you listen to that yourself.
- Title: Interview with Homer Flynn of The Residents
- Length: 37:10 minutes (187.57 MB)
- Format: RIFF Mono 44kHz 705Kbps (CBR)
Kathy, Dr Zomb & Rolf interviewed Edward Ka-Spel of the Legendary Pink Dots for A DIFFERENT NATURE. We conducted the interview at the Doug Fir a couple hours before they performed and aired it on ADN that night. Also thanks to Crystal for digital audio editing before the interview aired.
- Title: Edward Ka-spel interview
- Length: 23:31 minutes (21.53 MB)
- Format: MP3 Stereo 44kHz 128Kbps (CBR)
|Andrew Liles||Symphonium Star Wheel||Ouarda(the subtle art of phyllorhodomancy||Dirter|
|Andrew Liles||The Ether Red||My Long Accumulating Discontent||Nextera|
|Andrew Liles||An Un World||An Un World||Infraction|
|Andrew Liles||k) Foreigner||New York Doll||Infraction|
|Andrew Liles||A Showcase for your Colours (24 Whores)||Miscellany Deluxe||Vinyl-on-Demand|
|Andrew Liles||Part 4||The Dying Submarinder||Beta-Lactam Ring|
|Andrew Liles||Steak & Kidney Pudding||Black Sheep||Beta-Lactam Ring|
|Andrew Liles||Black Sea Part III||Black Sea||Beta-Lactam Ringq|
|Andrew Liles||Hay Barn||Black Out||Beta-lactam Ring|
|Andrew Liles||Piggy Faced Long Snout||Black Out||Beta-lactam Ring|
|Andrew Liles||To Maim a Donkey Part III||Black Widow||Beta-Lactam Ring|
|Andrew Liles||Olisbos||Black Sea||Beta-Lactam Ring|
|Andrew Liles||Untitled (A1)||Anal Aura Gram(ophone)||Beta-Lactam Ring|
|Andrew Liles||Dissappearance of Spoons||Ouarda(the subtle art of phyllorhodomancy||Dirter|
|Andrew Liles||Wanderer||7"||Beta-Lactam Ring|
|Andrew Liles||An Unkempt Garden or the Cod Cape||My Long Accumulating Discontent||Nextera|
|Andrew Liles||Nether Nether Land||Ouarda(the subtle art of Phyllorhodomancy||Dirter|
|Andrew Liles||Anything, Evertying, Nothing||An Un World||Infraction|
Tonight we listened to the music of Andrew Liles
On this week's A Different Nature, we took a look at the cassette-only series Tellus Audio Cassette Magazine, a subscription series that offered a wide variety of artists and musicians, often curated by a different artist or group per release.
‘Tellus was created in 1983 at the Rum Runner Bar on Canal Street in New York City. Joseph Nechvatal, a visual artist, Claudia Gould, a curator and Carol Parkinson, a composer and staff member of Harvestworks/Studio PASS met to discuss the idea of a magazine on cassette which would feature interesting and challenging sound works. With the advent of the Walkman and the Boom Box, the editors perceived a need for an alternative to radio programming and the commercially available recordings on the market at that time.’ [from Harvestworks website]
Many notable artists appeared here, sometimes in mediums they were not known for. The range of disciplines run the gamut from spoken-word arts, piano composition and performance, guitar, music for experimental film, radio drama, experiments in musical intonation and more.
The series ran from 1983 to 1993, spanning 24 issues, finally culminating in vinyl and CD compilations. It was a veritable who's who of avant garde music of the era, as well as many notable artists from the past making appearances.
Hosted by Rich L.
Play list (Artist-Title-Release)
Jody Harris - Mr. Control - Tellus #1 (1983)
Jerry Lindahl - The Indian Elephant - Tellus #1 (1983)
Sonic Youth - Scream - Tellus #1 (1983)
|Eli Keszler||part 1||Oxtirn||ESP-Disk 4061||www.espdisk.com|
|Charles Tyler||Strange Uhuru||Charles Tyler Ensemble||ESP-Disk 1029||www.espdisk.com|
|The Godz||White Cat Heat||Contact High||ESP-Disk 1037||www.espdisk.com|
|Patty Waters||Black is the Color of My True Love's Hair||Patty Waters Sings||ESP-Disk 1025||www.espdisk.com|
|Allen Ginsberg & Peter Orlovsky||Mantras||The East Village Other||ESP-Disk 1012||www.allmusic.com|
|Bob James Trio||And On||Explosions||ESP-Disk 1009||espdisk.com|
|Bob James Trio with Robert Ashley||Wolfman||Explosions||ESP-Disk 1009||espdisk.com|
|Amiri Baraka (LeRoi Jones) with New York Art Quartet||Black with New Ywith New York ork Dada Nihilisus||New York Art Quartet||ESP-Disk 1004||espdisk.com|
|Holy Modal Rounders||Indian War Whoop||Indian War Whoop||ESP-Disk 1068||www.espdisk.com|
|FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, THE PROGRAM WAS MADE UP OF SPONTANEOUS MIXES DERIVED FROM EXCERPTS OF THE FOLLOWING MATERIAL, IN THE ORDER OF APPEARANCE..... (Rolf served as principle 'mixolgist')|
|Alan Sondheim||Beautiful||T'Other Little Tune||ESP-Disk 1082||www.espdisk.com|
|Ornette Coleman||Dedication to Poets and Writers||Town Hall Concert 1962||ESP-Disk 1006||www.allmusic.com|
|Teiji Ito (composer)||The Coach With The Six Insides||The Coach With The Six Insides: A Musical Play By Jean Erdman based on James Joyce' FINNEGAN'S WAKE||ESP-Disk 1019||espdisk.com|
|Cromagnon||Crow Of The Black Tree||Cave Rock||ESP-Disk 2001||espdisk.com|
|William Burroughs||Uranian Willy||Call Me Burroughs||ESP-Disk 1050||espdisk.com|
|Sun Ra||The Other World||Sun Ra - Featuring Pharoah Sanders & Black Harold||ESP-Disk 4054||espdisk.com|
|Erica Pomerance||Koanisphere||You Used To Think||ESP-Disk 1099||espdisk.com|
|Albert Ayler||Bells||Bells/Prophecy||ESP-Disk 4006||www.espdisk.com|
|Alan Silva||Solestrial Communications Number One||Skillfulnesses||ESP-Disk 1091||espdisk.com|
|Sea Ensemble||Wave Hands Like Clouds||Music Of The Sea Ensemble - We Move Together||ESP-Disk 3018||espdisk.com|
|Sun Ra||The Cosmos||The Heliocentric Worlds Of Sun Ra, Vol. 1||ESP-Disk 1014||espdisk.com|
|The Godz||Squeak||Godz 2||ESP-Disk 1047||www.espdisk.com|
|The Fugs||Hallucination Horrors||Virgin Fugs||ESP-Disk 1038||www.espdisk.com|
|Charles Manson||Don't Do Anything Illegal||Charles Manson - Sings||ESP-Disk 2003||espdisk.com|
- Tonights edition of A Different Nature focused on the ESP-DISK label.
- Co-hosts: Alejandro, Andy, Daniel, Rolf, and Dr. Zomb.
- Links have been provided if you wish to learn more about these recordings.
|John Zorn||The Satyr's Play, Odes 1-8||The Satyr's Play / Cerberus||Tzadik Records||www.tzadik.com|
|Kroumata Percussion Ensemble||Henry Cowell: Pulse (1939)||The Kroumata Percussion Ensemble||BIS||www.eng-kroumata.sk-2.se|
|Talujon Percussion Quartet||Lou Harrison: Fugue (1942)||...the speed of the passing time...||Capstone||www.talujon.com|
|Percussion Group The Hague||John Cage: First Construction in Metal (1940)||Irony||Globe||www.allmusic.com|
|Steven Schick||David Lang: The Anvil Chorus||Bang On A Can Live, Vol. 2||CRI Emergency||bangonacan.org|
|Talujon Percussion Quartet||Xenakis: Okho||...the speed of the passing time...||Capstone||www.talujon.com|
|Music Projects/London||James Dillon: East 11th St. NY (dedicated to John Cage on the occasion of his 70th birthday)||East 11th St. NY||NMC||www.composers21.com|
host: Andy Hosch. Tonight an all percussion edition of A Different Nature.
|Vía Láctea||Aymara Parte III (Extracto)||En Vivo en el Chopo,1979||Momia|
|Vía Láctea||El Retorno de la Serpiente Emplumada (Quetzalcóatl)||En Vivo en el Chopo,1979||Momia|
|Mauricio Montero||In In Search of Silence||Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Manuel Rocha Iturbide||In Search of Silence||Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Iván Naranjo||Inside Silence||Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Julio Clavijo||Nay, Happiness||Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Machintosco||Mr. S||Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Arthur Henry Fork||Mr. Sadness Retires||Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|José Manuel Mondragón||Mr. Sadness Retires Effluvium State Remix||Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Mauricio Valdés||Sea Feathered Flute||Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Antonio Russek||Lessen the Pain||Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Rogelio Sosa||Lessen the Time||Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Taniel Morales||Desgaste||Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Israel Martínez||Lessen the Hyronimus' Friends||Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Gullermo Galindo||3B-HyronimusAnFriends||Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Alejandro Casales||Hyronimus N Friends||Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Mario de Vega||Hyronimus Cat||Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Jorge Reyes||Remember the porcelanine dreams||Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Vía Láctea||Via Luminosa||En Vivo en el Chopo,1979|
|Vía Láctea||Urantia||En Vivo en el Chopo,1979|
|Vía Láctea||La Sabiduría de los Profetas||En Vivo en el Chopo,1979|
|Juan José Gurrola||In search of silence||En Busca del Silencio/Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Juan José Gurrola||Nay, Happiness||En Busca del Silencio/Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Juan José Gurrola||Mr. Sadness Retires||En Busca del Silencio/Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Juan José Gurrola||Sea Feathered Flute||En Busca del Silencio/Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Juan José Gurrola||Lessen the Time||En Busca del Silencio/Escorpión en Ascendiente|
|Oxomaxoma||Deja de Chingar, Pendeja||En el Nombre sea de Dios|
|Randolph Hostetler||Happily Ever After||Perspectives in New Music|
|Christoff Mindore||Headholes/Hole in the Head||DAME|
|Robert Ashley||Purposeful Lady Slow Afternoon/Automatic Writing||Lovely|
|Noah Creshevsky||Coup d' Etat||Cenatur|
|Andrew Liles||The First Heart Attack Was the Best/ Miraculous Medanical Monster||Dicter|
|Nurse with Wound||I Was No Longer His Dominant/Astomating Vol. 2||United Diaries|
|Charles Amirkahanian||Pas de Voix||Perspectivs in New Music|
|Christoff Migone||Hide the Head/Hide In The Head||DAME|
|Anabel Lee||Lycantrophy/Etreme Music from Women||Susan Lawley|
In Search of Silence - Scorpio Rising, is an LP recorded by the eclectic Mexican Theater Director Juan José Gurrola in the early Seventies with various friends (Victor Fosado: Percussion, Roberto Bustamante: electric Guitar, Eduardo Guzman: Trumpet). It is an unknown record, only a few copies were made. It is a rare example of Mexican experimental music, free jazz, alternative music, at that time. I consider Gurrola a pioneer of sound art in Mexico, along with Alejandro Jodorowsky who was a good friend of his back in the sixties.
On 2007, the curator Mauricio Marcin did an exhibition of Gurrola's artistic works and he asked me if we could make a CD of this forgotten LP, but inviting electronic composers to do remixes, sound interventions or works inspired in the different tracks of Gurrola's LP. I had already suggested this to Gurrola, and so he agreed and I invited 20 Mexican people to participate. It became sort of homage to this grate interdisciplinary artist, that sadly died recently, just after the CD was published.
Also, a very rare tape by Via Lactea from the late 70's
90.7 FM Radio in Portland, Or. www.kboo.fm/listen on internet
Se podrá escuchar el disco En busca del Silencio/ Escorpión en ascendente grabado en los setentas por Gurrola, exploración musical denominada por él mismo como música neuro-atonal, y que Manuel Rocha, artista sonoro e investigador, define como “una música experimental muy libre, una especie de free jazz bastante avanzado que se mezcla con algo de pop con orígenes desconocidos”.
Asi como una cinta muy rara de Via Lactea de finales de los 70's.
|Maryanne Amacher||Synaptic Island (Tower Metals/Feed 2/Muse Orchestra 1||Sound Characters||Tzadik|
|Maryanne Amacher||Teo Part 3||Sound Characters 2||Tzadik|
|Maryanne Amacher||Head Rhythm 1/Plaything 2||Sound Characters||Tzadik|
|Maryanne Amacher||Tower||Sound Characters||Tzadik|
|Maryanne Amacher||Dense Boogie 1||Sound Characters||Tzadik|
|Maryanne Amacher||Step Into It, Imagining 1001 Years, A - (excerpt)||Sound Characters||Tzadik|
|Annette Vande Gorne||Terre||Tao||empreintes DIGITALes|
|Annette Vande Gorne||Metal||Tao||empreintes DIGITALes|
A DIFFERENT NATURE presents
TRAINEATER --from The Book of Knots' "Traineater"
GRAVITY --from Carla Kihlstedt's "2 Foot Yard"
SHIROI ARASHI (White Storm) --from Minamo's "Kuroi Kawa (BlackRiver)"
CRISIS -- from 2 Foot Yard's "Borrowed Arms"
WORLD OF MADE -- from Carla Kihlstedt's "2 Foot Yard"
OSSUARY -- from Sleepytime Gorilla Museum's "In Glorious Times"
LUCY HAS A NEW PET KITTY --from "Dalaba/Frith/Glick Rieman/Kihlstedt"
KONEKU (KITTY) -- from Minamo's "Kuroi Kawa (Black River)"
ASSISTANCE -- ANGLE OF REPOSE -- from Sleepytime Gorilla Museum's "In Glorious Times"
ALMOST ORGANIC and ARTIFICIAL SPRING -- from "Pandaemonium" (with ROVA sax quartet )
ALL THIS NOTHING --from the new (out soon) Book of Knots' "Garden of Fainting Stars"
THE NISNA -- from "Necessary Monsters" ( 9 songs inspired by Jorge Luis Borges' BOOK of IMAGINARY BEINGS, to be performed July 30, 31 at SF's Yerba Buena Center for The Arts)
(Necessary Monsters performance is the 1st component in Carla's IMAGINARY BEINGS PROJECT. The 2nd component is YOUR PART--The Bestiary is where all YOUR monsters will be kept. At this point, Carla tells us that she's looking for people to dream up/create/submit their own monsters (soon). More info at www.imaginarybeingsproject.com )
(now back to THE PLAYLIST...)
RELENTLESS PURSUIT -- from Carla Kihlstedt & Matthias Bossi's new "As I Lay Dreaming- Tales For The Stage, II"
FALLING UP and TALL STORY -- from Cosa Brava's "Ragged Atlas"
BLIND PAPER DRAGON --from Tin Hat Trio's "The Sad Machinery of Spring"
(THEN, CARLA PICKS UP HER BEAUTIFUL E-STRING VIOLIN and plays/sings LIVE in the KBOO Studios, the beginning section of "little e" from TIN HAT's new e. e. cummings project!!)
TIN HAT is finishing their West Coast tour this Thursday evening, May 19, 8 pm at The Mission Theater performing their new material based on the poetry of edward estlin cummings .
And we close the show with the intense "FLINCH" from Carla's "2 Foot Yard"
So much more about this amazing woman's numerous projects and collaborations at: http://www.carlakihlstedt.com/
(Thank you for joining us, Carla!!)
~daniel & danielle
A call-in show, where we went out to the listeners for ideas for future shows.. Stuff played was either phone related or stuff we'd played in the last year or..
Anyway here's the playlist:
Laurie Anderson - NY Social Life - V/A LP - Arch
Scanner - The Spirit of Speech/Digital Andor/Delivery - Rawkus
Francis Dohmont - Frankenstein Symphony - Ashpodel
FM Einheit/Andreas Ammer - Action - Deutsche Kreiger - Invisible
Christian Marclay - Excerpt - Record Without A Cover -
Susan Stone - Couch (Problems, Problems) The Lab: 20 year Anniversary - The Lab
Phil Harmonic - Greatest Hits, Side B
Barry Adamson - It's Business As Usual - Oedipus, Schmoedipus -
Michel Philippot - Abience II
Francios Bayle - L'Oiseau Chanteur
Phil Harmonic - - Greatest Hits - Lovely Little Records
Luc Ferrari - Head and Tail of the Dragon
Sho-San-Ke for Electronic
Moato Moroi - Sound of Traditional Japanese Instruments - Radio NHK
Pierre Schaeffer - Objets Lies
And we got some calls, and here were a few of the many ideas for future shows..
Sonic Youth SYR series
stuff using circuit bending
Disciples of Pandit Pran Prath (Terry Riley, LaMonte Young, Michael Stirling)
Final installment in a six-part series on the music of Butch Morris; host: Andy Hosch of Timbuktunes
1. "Istanbul" (9:25) from David Murray Big Band conducted by Lawrence D. "Butch" Morris (DIW, Japan, 1991); David Murray (tenor sax, bass clarinet), Hugh Ragin, Graham Haynes, Rasul Siddik, James Zollar (trumpets), Craig Harris, Frank Lacy, Al Patterson (trombones), Vincent Chaney (French horn), Bob Stewart (tuba), Kahlil Henry (flute, piccolo), John Purcell (alto sax), James Spaulding (alto sax, flute), Patience Higgins (tenor & soprano sax), Don Byron (baritone sax, clarinet), Sonelius Smith (piano), Fred Hopkins (bass), Tani Tabbal (drums), Lawrence D. "Butch" Morrris (conductor).
2. "The Bartok Comprovisation" (7:11) from Butch Morris, Dust to Dust (New World, 1991); Vickey Bodner (English horn) Jean-Paul Bourelly (guitar), Brian Carrott (vibraphone), Andrew Cyrille (drums), J.A. Deane (trombone & electronics), Marty Ehrlich (clarinet); Janet Grice (bassoon), Wayne Horvitz (keyboards & electronics), Jason Hwang (violin), Myra Melford (piano), Zeena Parkins (harp), John Purcell (oboe), Lawrence D. "Butch" Morrris (conductor).
3. "Improvisation No. 2" (14:20) (unreleased, 1990); Butch Morris Trio: Butch Morris (cornet), Bill Horvitz (electric guitar), J.A. Deane (trombone & electronics).
4. "Preservation" (8:08) from Nublu Orchestra conducted by Butch Morris live at Jazz Festival Saalfelden, Austria (Nublu Records, 2010); Lawrence D. "Butch" Morrris (conductor), Ilhan Ersahin (tenor saxophone), Jonathon Haffner (alto saxophone), Graham Haynes (cornet), Fabio Morgera (trumpet), Liek Knuffke (trumpet), Thor Masden (guitar-left channel), Zeke Zima (guitar-right channel), Michael Kiaer (electric bass), Kenny Wollesen (drums), Mauro Refosco (percussion).
5. "Improvisation No. 1" (13:27) (unreleased, 1990); Butch Morris Trio: Butch Morris (cornet), Bill Horvitz (electric guitar), J.A. Deane (trombone & electronics).
6. "Food Chain Dialogue" (7:41) from Butch Morris, Dust to Dust (New World, 1991); see personnel above.
7. "Conduction no. 143/2, part 4" (13:41) (recorded at Berlinische Galerie, Berlin, Germany, 5 Nov/ 2004); Laboratorio Novamusica: Cecilia Vendrasco (flutes), Ilich Fenzi (trumpet), Umberto de Nigris
(trombone), Piergabriele Mancuso (viola), Carlo Carratelli (harpsichord), Giovanni Mancuso
(piano), Andrea Carlon (double bass), Peter Gallo (drums/percussion), Lawrence D. "Butch" Morrris, conductor.
8. "Ozone - Burning Red" (excerpt) from Butch Morris, Lê Quan Ninh & J.A. Deane, Burning Cloud (FMP, 1996); Butch Morris (cornet), Lê Quan Ninh (percussion) & J.A. Deane (trombone, flute & electronics).
to learn more about Butch Morris and conduction: http://www.conduction.us/
|Otomo Yoshihide's New Jazz Orchestra||Straight Up and Out (excerpt)||Out to Lunch||Doubt Music|
|Sachiko M||2808200||An Anthology of Noise & Electronic Music Vol 6||Sub Rosa|
|Sachiko M/Leonid Soybelman||Live 1997 (bonus track)||With Russia From Love||No Man's Land|
|Sachiko M/Otomo Yoshihide||Filament 1-5||Filament 1||Extreme|
|Sachiko M/Gunter Muller/Otomo Yoshihide||Filament 2-3||Filament 2||Four 4 Ears|
|Sachiko M||Don't Touch||Sine Wave Solo||Amoebic|
|Otomo Yoshihide/Sachiko M/Ishikawa Ko||Modulation 1||Cathode||Tzadik|
|Ensemble Cathode||Cathode 3 (variations of Modulation 1)||Ensemble Cathode||Improvised Music From Japan|
|Sachiko M||Ne Pas(Sachiko Solo)||Four Focuses||Amoebic|
|Ami Yoshida||Aura Hysteria||Spiritual Voice||Airport|
|Ami Yoshida||Tracks 1-6||Tiger Thrush||Improvised Music from Japan|
|Cosmos(Sachiko M/Ami Yoshida)||1||Tears||Erstwhile|
|Sachiko M||Don't Do||Sine Wave Solo||Amoebic|
Focus on Sachiko M and Ami Yoshida.. Some comments on the show follow:
"I turned on the radio and just hear this high pitched hum.. are you having transmitter problems?"
"I just walked into the room and hear a high-pitched whine. Is there something wrong with the antenna. You mean this is supposed to be music? It's not music, it's just a high pitch whine. Are you the idiot that programmed this? Do you think people are going to be entertained by this shit? You're taking up valuable air time with this. YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT!" The man got more and more angry as he talked to me, until he blew up at the end, and then hung up. . ..